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James Waters, founder of Kingdom Impact and leader in development of the Christian Impact Framework, joins Cody and Kealan to share how God reshaped his life from personal loss and restless success into a calling at the intersection of research, mission, and stewardship. After encountering Christ during university and later witnessing both the beauty and brokenness of global development work, James began asking deeper questions about how Christians can pursue meaningful impact without losing dependence on the Holy Spirit.

Through his work, James now helps ministries, businesses, and givers think more clearly about spiritual and social impact, building frameworks that bring clarity without replacing prayerful discernment. He explores the tension between faithfulness and fruitfulness, showing how wise measurement can strengthen stewardship, deepen relationships, and ultimately give glory to God. At the same time, he acknowledges the challenges of pride, misplaced identity, and over-reliance on systems, pointing back to humility and obedience as the foundation for Kingdom impact.

Consider how combining prayerful discernment with thoughtful strategy could reshape the way you pursue lasting Kingdom impact.

Major Topics Include:

• Balancing faithfulness and measurable fruitfulness
• Stewardship through thoughtful impact measurement
• Tension between strategy and Holy Spirit dependence
• Defining and clarifying spiritual impact outcomes
• Avoiding noise by focusing measurement priorities
• Humility and teachability in Kingdom work
• Relational generosity versus transactional giving
• Identity, pride, and the savior mindset in giving
• Integrating prayer with strategic decision-making
• Diversity of callings in Kingdom impact

Quotes to Remember

• “Measure the impact and give Him all the glory.”
• “If you measure everything, you kind of measure nothing.”
• “We’re called to be accountable for our faithfulness, but true fruit comes from abiding in Jesus.”
• “There’s a tension between faithfulness and fruitfulness, and that tension should lead us to humility.”
• “We need to be on our knees, and thinking, planning, and being diligent.”
• “The bigger trap for the giver is the savior mindset, which is ultimately rooted in pride.”
• “If an organization is not willing to learn, that’s a bigger red flag than not having impact.”
• “There are Kingdom principles that can lead to a hundredfold return.”
• “I also believe that God celebrates wild sacrifice that looks like a complete waste.”
• “Success is just being obedient to what God has told you to do.”

Links from the Show

• Kingdom Impact
• Christian Impact Framework
• Accord Network
• EIDO Research
• Eagle Venture Fund (see our interview with General Partner Wes Lyons)
• Hope International (see our interview with founder, Jeff Rutt or CEO, Peter Greer)

Bible References from the Show

1 Corinthians 3:6 | God Gives the Growth

I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth.

John 15:5 | Abiding Bears Fruit

I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Ephesians 3:10 | Manifold Wisdom Displayed

So that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places.

Matthew 22:37 | Love God Fully

And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.”

Matthew 26:7–13 | The Alabaster Jar

John 15:8 | Fruit That Glorifies God

By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples.

Take A Step Deeper

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